Free subscription – website is stale

Click Meet People->Paid Subscription from the menu, click Paid Subscription->Compare or scroll down the web page and click Buy Subscription to find out the differences between free and paid membership.

By the way, replying to messages sent to you by other members is free. All you have to do is wait a while. Only sending the first, initial-contact message to other members requires a paid subscription.

There are actually over 5300 members on this site and over the past two years over 2700 people have created accounts and deleted them at a later date. We get hundreds of unique visitors every day and several new accounts are created each day. In the past year, we have had almost 100,000 unique visitors to our website. Obviously only a fraction create accounts. If we are advertising at the time, we can get over 1000 unique visitors per day.

Since July 2023, we have been advertising our website in newspapers and on news websites who are part of the truth movement when funds are available. We have also advertised on Twitter (now x.com) and targeted the followers of accounts who we think would like to join our site. This has cost us what is a significant amount of money for ourselves.

There is a limit of viewing 30 profiles per day and also a limit of 30 searches per day if you have a free account. If you wait until tomorrow you can start viewing profiles again. If you do a search and specify your city, viewing 30 profiles a day should be more than enough. The way this website is configured is for very good reasons and simply to ensure it can exist long-term. As we say in many places in this forum, unlike many other apps and sites we do not receive money from the government, university grants and the stock market (this means your pension funds). Nor are we connected with companies receiving government contracts. It is easy to be free if you have a spigot of free money pouring in! Many free apps spy on you in some way. For example they will backup your messages and encrypt them with their key. By default, they will upload all the numbers in your phone’s contact list to their servers. Now they know who all your friends are and they will release this information on any valid request! Some of the largest, free social media sites on the Internet obtained their money by legal, but perhaps questionable stock market offerings.

We cannot afford to advertise extensively in every country of the world. So far we are concentrating on the UK, the USA, Canada, Sweden, the Netherlands, France and Germany. So if you look at every country in the world you will find countries with users who haven’t logged in for months. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Members are notified by email automatically if they get a contact request, smile or message. There is nothing wrong in waiting for someone to join in your city and give you a nudge to log back in by sending a smile. Our site stops sending notification emails if a user ignores the first one reminding him or her of unread messages. They will resume again just by moving from one page to another on our site. In this way nobody will get sent an excessive number of notification emails. Each notification email has an unsubscribe link at the bottom. You can update the email address used by this site with either of the below.

https://unjabbed.net/my-account/edit-account/

or

https://unjabbed.net/users/YOUR-USERNAME-HERE/edit/

Sometimes emails inadvertently get filed under junk, bulk or spam email. So it is probably a good idea for people to log back into the site after a few months and see if there are any new people in their city and any surrounding ones.

We have noticed some people here create accounts, stay for a few days or weeks and then delete them. A few weeks later they go through the same cycle. If enough people do this they will constantly miss others from the same part of the world!

We were a free dating website from March 2023 to July 2024. The issue with being free is that there is no money for any of the following:

• To improve the software on the website.
• To pay for advertising.
• To fix an intermittent stream of issues which take between a few hours and a few days to fix.

On a free site anybody can create an account at any time and send any sort of message to anybody else. So you get overrun with businesses promoting their products and annoying people lacking discernment. We paid almost $1000 USD for advertising in Canada. We ended up with several hundred members from Canada, but far less members in other countries. Some Canadian members received tens of messages from men in other countries. If people have to pay to send a message, they will more clearly think whether there is any likelihood of meeting someone in real life! Paying members here get a certified mark on their profiles. This is an important point.

What you get out of this site depends on what country you are in. The Dutch news website NineForNews.nl and the Canadian newspaper Druthers.ca have extremely large numbers of readers. We advertised with both of them. Hence we have reasonable numbers of members in The Netherlands and Canada. In the United Kingdom, our members are thinly spread all over the place. We have done everything we can to try to fix that. We paid for two adverts in The Light newspaper. Whether we have lots of members in a specific country depends very much on being able to advertise in popular and alternative news websites. We can only keep on advertising if a fair number of members pay for subscriptions.

We have spent over $4000 USD on advertising. As such we have to ask for money before someone can send a message. However we do extend free messaging to members in countries we have not advertised on the condition our website is only used to contact people within the same country. Even after we switched to be a paying site, we have given many members free upgrades to “paid” accounts. If anyone wants to use this website to benefit the community, rather than for dating purposes, we will be predisposed to give them free membership.

Some of our members tell us they use other websites and get lots of messages from people selling crypto currency.

We aren’t actually a capitalist activity. Because we have spent over $4000 USD on advertising, this website actually loses money. We started this website to be an alternative to mainstream sites demanding a minimum payment of $60 USD. At the time of writing we charge $15 USD for a whole year, which makes us one of the cheapest dating sites on the Internet.

Payment is entirely voluntary. Before anyone pays they can:

• Check to see if there is anybody in their city or in a nearby city,
• Send the relevant people smiles and contact requests to see if they are interested.

When I used dating apps, I found most people failed to disclose their vaccination status. Many members here tell us that it is impossible to find an unvaccinated person on other dating apps. When some of our members disclosed their unvaccinated status or asked questions about vaccination status on mainstream dating apps, they soon found their accounts deleted.

Free dating apps most certainly don’t cater exclusively for unvaccinated people. As we do we are not allowed to participate in the largest advertising networks which would bring in revenue.

Do you realise how difficult and expensive it is to set up sites like these that actually work? We are currently advertising on Twitter and targeting the countries of Denmark and Belgium, because in the past we haven’t advertised much (or at all) in those countries. On the first day of our advertising campaign, we had people create accounts, delete them the same day and tell us there aren’t enough people in their countries to warrant staying longer. They could have at least waited until the end of our advertising campaign! We also have several members in some cities, but the members with completed profiles won’t message the members in the same age range as have blank profiles, so all the money we spent on advertising is lost. When we email people to ask them to fill out their profiles they complain they aren’t enough people to warrant doing so. It can be a vicious cycle.

Only a small percentage of members pay for a subscription. At the time of writing we are paying for advertising on Twitter.

Depending on what country you are in, 80 to 90% of the population are vaccinated. If you are lucky you might be in a country such as Romania which only has a 30% vaccination percentage. Things can be a little slower here. We have seen it again and again. Someone signs up to our site. After a few weeks they hide or delete their profile. Two months later people arrive in the same age range and city. Patience is the key. If more people actually paid for a subscription we could afford a continuous, low-level advertising campaign on Twitter for multiple countries.

We did want this site to continue to be free but we discontinued it for the following reasons:

• People think donating $5 or $10 won’t make a difference and so few people did so. This is the same phenomenon as voiced by the owners of alternative news websites who state only between 1 in 1000 and 10,000 readers donate money.
• We received several thank-you emails from people who successfully met up in real life, but none of them donated any money to us.
• We received several donations from people along with the message “I don’t expect to meet anyone from this site, but I believe in the cause”. As such the altruistic people were paying for others. We actually switched to be a paying site soon after we received a string of messages saying essentially the same thing.
• About 1 in 300 people will send annoying messages or will be businesses trying to sell products. Requiring payment mostly stops this kind of activity.
• Advertisements on alternative news websites cost $400 USD. If they are successful they can bring in hundreds of new members within a few days. It is impossible to afford them by continuing to be a free site. Witness the fact there are hundreds of members on this site from certain countries, but when we were a free website the donations we received were so low they wouldn’t even pay for one advert. It is difficult for a small organisation to afford $400 for an advert, but it is trivial when this cost is spread across hundreds of members. Limited funds greatly slows everything down.
• There are several things going on behind the scenes to keep this website running smoothly. All of these either cost time, money or both.

We picked trying to be a useful site for more people over being a free site, after 17 months of being a free site.

Certainly every site of this genre could be better with more members. We have done everything we can given our limited funds and time. So what is the solution?

• Alternative and natural health websites could provide permanent links to us at a reasonable price. Over the past two years we have contacted tens of websites asking for advertising. Most of them don’t reply to us. We would like to thank The Light for agreeing to show an advert for our site for a whole year. We would advertise more on alternative news websites, but their prices are so high we can’t afford to. To get sufficient numbers on this website so people can easily meet each other, we need to take out several adverts in one publication. This makes the cost exorbitantly high. Informing them of the problem does not work. There are some exceptions though.
• More members could pay for subscriptions and allow us to advertise more.
• We actually become like every other site and charge several times more.

Our site is free to use for people in Norway. At the time of writing there are 119 people from that country. In Sweden, we ask for a small payment for a whole year. We have 359 people from that country. This is a difference of over three-fold. This shows a paid website is much more effective than a free one – well at least for unvaccinated people.

Another solution, perhaps going in the opposite direction to your suggestion, is for our low membership fee to be to use the software on our website with access to the existing members. If someone wants to donate additional money to us, we can use it to target their region of the world with online advertising. Of course this has to be with our prior agreement first so we can ascertain if a suitable platform exists for advertising. Currently Twitter allows us to target specific regions with our adverts. We only have limited funds and we can’t do this all ourselves. There is no reason why this website can’t be a cooperative affair. At the time of writing, we are targeting adverts for this website to the city of one member who donated money to us above the stated membership fee.

Some countries have more members on this site than others. If there was the will, these problems could be fixed in short order. Some people could download and print our adverts and distribute them on the public noticeboards (or tables reserved for leaflets) of libraries, cafes, bars, churches, grocery stores and cinemas. Others could donate us money, which could be put towards more online advertising. Online advertising is expensive. Printing out our advert and putting it up on the public noticeboard of your local cafe is practically free and has the advantage anyone who sees it will be in the same city as yourself.

Mainstream dating apps are money-making machines. They are designed to keep people on them for as long as possible trying to collect double-matches. The longer people are on the app the more money they spend on boosts and bundles of messages. One of the main reasons for creating this website was to be a far cheaper alternative. We were a free website for 17 months. We don’t have infinite money. We are aware of what is going on around us. We see several alternative dating sites and social media sites closing down, due to lack of users and being constantly attacked by spam bots and businesses trying to sell their crypto currency. If this trend continues the only ways for people to communicate will be the mainstream social media sites. Need I remind you of the censorship we all saw from 2020 to 2021 concerning certain vaccines and how major social media sites closed down meeting groups for the unvaccinated when they grew to large numbers.

For 17 months we emailed alternative news websites, told them our website was free to use and that if they cannot mention our site for free we can pay them $100. Most of them did not even reply to us. The ones that did asked for several times that amount. Were they right to do so? In retrospect we think they were. News websites take time and money to maintain and growing a large readership requires constant effort. If nobody gives them money they will disappear. It is better a large number of people pay a small amount of money than just a few people pay out thousands of dollars. However it is not all gloom. Some news websites cut their prices just for us or ran our adverts multiple times for one payment. They deserve our thanks.

At the time of writing we have 779 members on this site from the Netherlands. Before paid advertising we only had between 10 and 20. The reality is a fair proportion of people will delete their accounts if they don’t see lots of people on a site. So should a Dutch man or woman wait ten years before we can organically grow our numbers? Or should they pay a very small amount of money to put towards advertising on news websites with hundreds of thousands of readers? It is impossible to become established without paying out money. Search engines will only rank a website if high-value websites with substantial content link to it. All the people running news websites know this and that is why they charge substantial prices to mention other websites. In the first few months of our existence, we had several complaints from members that they weren’t enough people on this site and they told us to take out paid advertising.

Did any billionaires warn you to skip the jabs back in 2020 and 2021? So why do expect them to give you free stuff without strings attached? Internet apps with millions of users cost at the very least hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to run. What are you using now? Are the same people providing the infrastructure for it the exact same people who caused the original problem in the first place by censorship? When you give them your money or audience, the same problems will happen again and again in the future.

The aim of this website is to allow people who declined covid jabs to make genuine connections with those in their city or a nearby one. It is a meeting site first, not social media. Mainstream social media is now allowing certain amounts of uncensored free speech. There is the belief that this is only to stop the rampant growth of real, alternative social media and to gain back control. You can say what you want about certain issues, but it will only reach the same 5% on the platform again and again. You only get to preach to the converted. Watch out for the heroes, they will reveal one hoax, only to pump others.

It takes us months to get enough money to pay for an advert on an alternative news website. At the moment we can advertise on Twitter (now x.com) for a stream of smaller payments and target specific countries. It is a pity not to take advantage of this now. Some people are aware of all the relevant sites, but only a few months ago we had new members join our site and tell us they had no idea unvaccinated dating sites existed!

When we first set up this website our intention was that it should be a cooperative affair. Our job would simply be to setup a website. If someone managed to meet up with a member here in real life they should donate some money to us. If someone saw we were making a genuine effort with a series of newspaper adverts in their country, they should help pay for future ones. We do sometimes get the impression people think this website set itself up on its own and that it does not require money to keep it ticking over. This is not directed at the original poster of this thread, but rather conversations we had with other members a few months ago. The future of this website is the sum of individual actions.

We have been looking for ages for alternative news sites in France, Italy and Germany to help advertise our website. We can’t seem to find any. If you know of any please tell us.

I totally agree with the reply from the admin, the membership fee here is reasonable and keep in mind unjabbed people are the minority so when one joining unjabbed must have that reality in mind. And also dont forget that the creators of this site, stated very clear that their goal is NOT to make unjabbed.net a dating site ALONE but a place for like minded people to meet, talk, exchange ideas and get to know one another etc.