💰🙁Not worth paying just to send a couple of messages

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  • #9311
    administrator
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    Recently a few members have told us it is not worth paying $8 just to send a couple of messages.

    From March 2023 to July 2024, our website was free to use.

    At the time of writing, we charge $14 for a whole year to send messages to other members. This means we are over 12x cheaper than comparable websites. Part of the reason for creating this website was to be an alternative to mainstream dating apps charging a minimum of $60 to join.

    However if a member sends you a message first, it free to reply to it. So if you wait around you might not have to pay anything to use our site.

    The most important feature of dating and meeting websites is the number of members. We found that if we paid for advertising on popular, alternative news websites the number of members we had in some countries jumped from about thirty to several hundred. This means people are much more likely to find someone in their city.

    To date we have paid almost $4000 USD in advertising around the world. This means we can no longer be a free website. Sometimes advertising fails. Sometimes it will bring in hundreds of new members. The figure of $4000 does not even include the time and money we have spent creating and maintaining this website. At the moment we would like to advertise more, but we don’t have the money. Only a small percentage of members here take out a subscription.

    But back to the point… If you don’t think it is worth paying any money just to send a couple of messages what can you do? You can send people a free “smile” or “contact request”. If they are interested in you they can send you a “smile” back. This is not quite as good as a message though. Our website does not always send out smile notification emails. This will be the case if the user has not been active on the site since the last notification email was sent out. Plus notification emails can be inadvertently filtered as junk mail. Not all users check the list of people who smiled at them.

    Several members have told us they dislike blank profiles. So please don’t send smiles to people unless you have filled out your profile first. The goal of this website is that people can meet up in real life, so try to stick to people in the same country as yourself.

    The major social media sites you use are free. However they cost a vast amount of money to run. Billionaires do not give away good stuff for nothing. This money comes from the government, advertising and the stock market (this means your pension funds). Despite claims of privacy and encryption, many free smartphone apps and websites spy on you. Your messages may be end-to-end encrypted, but sometimes a backup will be created and encrypted with the company’s key. You can turn backups off, but all your contacts will have to do the same. Shortly after installation, the app can read your contact list of phone numbers and send it to their server. Your messages may be safe, but now the company is one step away from knowing your real identity and the real identity of all your friends.

    #9324
    Polartaz
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    It’s amazing how people actually take the time to complain. People that complain should go on an ayhuasca journey and fix that stuff.

    #9353
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    I have seen something of a vicious cycle in the past months. New members register with our site, but do not add a photograph or write anything about themselves. Occasionally I prompt them to rectify this. They reply that there are not enough people in their city and their age range and so it is not worth bothering. A few months later more people register in the same cities. They don’t message the existing members, because they tell me they haven’t written anything about themselves and these people obviously don’t want to talk.

    The issue is that people want others to provide photographs and/or written descriptions of themselves and want everything to be instantaneous. The reality is that the funds for advertising are limited and unvaccinated dating sites are very much individual efforts, rather than supported by big business.

    We can provide the tools for people to connect with each other, but the rest is up to you.

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    #9979
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    In reply to PUREG0LD, we have looked into digital currencies and it is very difficult to find a provider who will change it into fiat currency, which we need to pay for Internet hosting and advertising.

    We were a free website from March 2023 to July 2024 and our experience from doing this has made us not want to go back even in a limited fashion such as one message per week. Generally anything free will be abused.

    • The whole point of a website like ours is to get as many members as possible. This means paying for advertising. This is extremely expensive. A certain percentage of users will create accounts and delete them the same day when they find only a few people in their city or none at all. This makes advertising even more expensive! So it is difficult to give anything away for free. Even now we have several members in the same city. Some will have blank profiles and the ones with completed profiles tell us they won’t message those without. Again this wastes all the money we spent on advertising.
    • Even at one free message a week, it will be abused. People will create multiple accounts so they can send more than one message. Having the intermediate step of having to pay is good. It will make people think whether this site is suitable for them first. Not everyone is annoying, but one out of a few hundred people are. People will just sign up to send a rude message to someone, but they are far more unlikely to if it will cost them money. Now that our website is getting more popular, we get businesses signing up just to promote their products. Having a payment step means they can only create a profile and not bother members with messages. When we notice their account a few hours later we can delete it.
    • This website is a part-time venture which loses money. When work needs to be done on this website, it can take us anywhere between a few hours and a few days.
    • Many free dating and social media sites close down due to spam. Even a small free offering will let the bad bots in.
    • There are two types of social media and news websites. Ones that are independent like ours. All the others are funded by government, advertisements, the stock market (this means your pension funds), university grants and billionaires. Consensus, the magic words of “end-to-end encryption” and glowing reviews don’t get around the fact that free apps are spying on you in some way e.g. uploading your list of smartphone contacts to their server by default. Now the company knows who all your friends are and they will reveal this information given any valid request. Free is a very easy option for companies with huge amounts of money flowing in from the stock market.
    • The lack of money has always held this website back. If more members paid we could advertise more and get more members. Then everyone would have a low-cost dating and meeting website and not have to pay hundreds of dollars a year to a mainstream site. These mainstream sites helped promote the covid vaccination campaign and so out of principle people should not help support them. Have you really looked into where your money is going? If you are using another dating site, it is a fair bet some of your money is going to the people who created the problem in the first place by censoring information.
    • Advertisements on news websites can cost $400 USD. It is extremely difficult for a small organization to pay for these, but the cost would be trivial when spread across hundreds of members.
    • One of the reasons for creating this website was to avoid the $60 entry fee needed for many mainstream sites or the extremely expensive alternative of paying for only three messages. If we went back to giving away functionality for free, it would only raise the costs for the fraction of members willing to pay. Witness many websites and apps charge $9 per month for only small increases in functionality above the free option. This means 2% of members are paying for the other 98%. How is that fair?
    • Having an easy, online-only option is not always the best way! Why not download and print out some of our adverts, put them in your bag or pocket and stick them on any public noticeboards you find in churches, cafes, bars and grocery stores. This has the major advantage that if it attracts any new members to this website they will be near to you. If you do this as part of your daily activities this won’t even take up any of your time!

    At the moment we have a low, non-recurring fee for a whole year. Our cost for a whole year is less than some other dating websites charge for a single month.

    In reply to your last point about charging for when there are few users on the site, we have upgraded many people at no cost to themselves to “paid” accounts if they are in a country with few members on the condition they only message people within the same country. If we haven’t spent any money on advertising in a certain country, we will be predisposed to turning on messaging for members there for free. The reality is we have emailed tens of news websites over the past two years. Only a few mentioned our site to their readers for free. You can have your free social media apps, but beware they will be spying on you in some way. Did any billionaires tell you to avoid covid vaccines? So why do you think they will give you a free smartphone app without strings attached?

    #10150
    AntiVaxxerConspiracyObserver
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    Administrator made a number of good points.  It’s surprising to me that people would say it is not worth paying sich a small fee to have an entire year to possibly meet and message people who are also unvaxxed.  Especially with how hard it is to find the same people in other places.  Besides the fact that other places, lile the Admin said, often have a lot of money and various agendas and can sell and share your personal data.  Basically all other dating sites charge like $20-40 or so per month, simply to have the ability to send messages, and that doesn’t mean anyone will actually respond to you.  They are just good at making it seem like you will have lots of messages with people.  And how many of the people on common dating sites will have had the covid shots also, or possibly even slept with someone who had the covid shots even if they didn’t, and they won’t know about shedding and won’t mention that to you?</p>
    I like how the people working behind this site also want this to be more than simply a dating site, and to be a kind of social platform to connect with people who are not vaxxed and also by that are more likely to share other values, beliefs and knowledge.  This is a very important cause.  Even if you didn’t get a single message on here in an entire year, you would have made a small donation to a good cause that hopefully will be helping more and more and more people connect and find each other as we move forward into the future.  But if people quit and delete their profile after a short time, and don’t want to pay the small and humble fee that gives them an entire year, the people who delete profiles won’t connect with anyone, others who don’t delete their profiles will see less people and be discouraged, and this platform and mission won’t make it.

    Yeah there’s not a ton of people like on big dating sites, but it takes time especially with hardly any money, to spread the word and get more and more people aboard.  It’s not just about how many messages you might send or receive for whether it is worth the fee.  It is worth it because this is a mission to connect us unvaxxed people when the people in power with money, want us all to give up and get the shots or atleast be with injected people and then be contaminated ourselves via shedding which is proven, especially with closer physical contact.

    Growing this platform and getting many people to join is not a fast or easy feat.  Everyone should support this cause because there is not another like this I have found, and they deserve to be helped and funded, they are doing a great service.  This is an investment for the future.  People not wanting to pay a small amount, want this platform to fail.  And the people behind this site are not greedy for profits.

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